I really should play Steins;gate 0, that sounds like an interesting bit of exposition. Okabe had to trick steins;gate world-line okabe to reach steins;gate is because our protagonist okabe and steins;gate okabe are the same entity up until the shift to steins;gate. I think some people here misunderstand the notion of a world-line jump; it's not a jump to a completely distinct line. Steins;Gate Drama CD Alpha, Beta, and Gamma, stylized as α, β, and γ, are a trilogy of audio dramas based on the 2009 video game Steins;Gate, and are part of the Science Adventure series. If you only change that what a human would see as important, the universe would correct these changes, because there are not part of the system. Okabe uses the time leap machine to attempt to prevent Mayuri from being killed, but he quickly learns that the mission isn’t as simple as he thought. Subsequently, the mad scientist finds himself faced with a horrific decision: choosing which of his lab members will die! Deciding to change the subject to something else, Mayuri recalls how she first came to the lab. Since, the influence of attractor filed in alpha world line is SERN complete a time machine that can alter the past and future. Description. For the other two, the black hole thing isn't real physics but neither is the very concept of time travel. Even though Rintaro time leaps a multitude of times to avoid her dead, not even his best efforts can trick fate. Within this space of potentials there exists a kind of gravity called an attractor field which operates on these potentials to try and maintain coherence and linear structure whenever the active worldline is tampered with via a time traveller. This observer can change the past only by actually observing events, his actions are not predestined when he arrives in the worldline though they WILL obey the will of the attractor field to some extent. The breast pocket of his lab coat has a red pen sticking out, and around his slacks he wears … Instead, Mayuri comes up and pushes him out of the way, consequently getting hit by the car and dying in Okabe's arms. That's unscientific, but I see why they're going for it as it sure is a beautiful thought =p. Okabe lies flat on his back again, staring up at the sky. Human, Robots, AI, etc are different from a Rock because they're complicated machines, a few bits of information in their system can leads to enormous changes in the global state of the world. I thought the Steins Gate 0 Okabe wouldn't overwrite S;G Okabe? Though I don't personally consider those plotholes as much as just kind of meh writing that's so minor as to be inconsequential to the story. Hence SERN will complete their time machine faster and such. If he succeeds in not doing that, he's free of the attractor field and the future can change greatly including in ways that undermine his own existence instead of his observations. Attractor Field are more like the sum of the Path Integral for every object on earth, leading the whole system from a state A to a state B. Paradoxes don't exist. (Also, Suzuha doesn't understand anything about Time Travel, even Mayuri understands more, but that's because she's pretty clever.). The closest example would be using a magnet to substitute the attractor field. Kurisus death causes the dmail, that changes the worldline. She have a conversation at the lab with Kurisu. Nothing major immediately changes except for the one thing: There is now an additional observer of events present in this worldline. https://steins-gate.fandom.com/wiki/Episode_21:_Paradox_Meltdown?oldid=18165. Its described that a system cant decide what information is relevant for a context. -There is a limited tolerance for paradoxes because to some degree, causality can be violated in Steins;Gate due to inter-worldline influence. When the value of the world line get closer to 0% Mayuri will die sooner. Main Tag Steins Gate Tapestry. Mayuri's full profile. So the system is repairing itself. The stronger it's closer to 0% SERN influence will be stronger, so if the needle is place farther away from the magnet it will also resulted in a lesser pulling force. 4. Her hair forms fringes that sweep from either side. Future Okabe and Suzuha(temporarily) always exists in the Steins;gate world-line while it's still collinear with beta as an inter-worldline input to that world's history, much the same way that a d-mail still exists in a worldline from which it was not sent. I thought alot about why Steins Gate Zero took so much effort to explain that. Thank you! It's not fine with an observer observing something that screws with other confirmed observable events in a contradictory way. She asks him if he is doing okay after Daru mentioned Okabe's crying to her. It is about the possibility of another world lines similar to Steins;Gate. What's interesting, and possibly the source of some confusion, is that none of the characters really understand how it works, to the point where I would suspect the authors didn't know what they were doing, except that everything that happened followed the rules correctly. Feel free to not answer this one, if there is nothing to say: I was studying both Quantum Physics and Physiology at University, and I'm wondering, why S;G convergence fields are always targeting humans when convergence field basically has all particles in the Universe to "correct" the reality. Namely it targets humans to change events which pertain to humans, and modifying their thoughts/actions which are just sequences of neural activations is simpler than deforming the world around them, but presumably it could also target other matter. This means that Mayuri will have various fates, dead or alive, awaiting her in the different various world lines. Only one world-line, in the sense of one collection of observed potentials, is active at a time. Hit by a metro train. They leave details of how the machine works vague enough that it's hard to call the time machine a plot hole, it's just never explained. Because of the importance of observers in this physics, time travel behaves differently from d-mails. Then he lives happily ever after with Kurisu =). And it's slightly off topic, but since, as I know from your previous post, you're studying neurology/neuroscience, I would like to ask you one more question. Lets say the universe is the system, that processes all information of what is happening and generates the next event. I hope that it helps explain our take on what happened in steins;gate and how the universe works (and why we don't think it has any plot holes). Steins Gate Ep 13 Fate Moe Sucks. Now then, if there are all these potentials out there prior to observation, why does the series seem so fatalistic? Daru begins to make the final preparations, but Okabe quickly tells him it's not necessary to do so. Beta world line on the other hand is a complete mess by WW3. That before this information get leak to the world they tend to use force to bring all the researcher that participate in the experiment which is Kurisu, Okabe and Daru to their side. For example, if the Kurisu should lie in the pool of blood in some place, the easiest way to do it is to drive her father into the rage, instead of directly destructing molecules and organs in her body. Physical time travel is similar in nature; it shifts the divergence value of the worldline ever so slightly, so that even if there's no overall change, if you are to go back twice, you don't see your previous attempt - this is the reason why on the second try, Okabe doesn't run into himself attempting to save Kurisu the first time. The key to change something that depends on Okabes person is to alter what he perceives. After okabe and suzuha successfully observe makise alive/the Nakabachi papers being destroyed then the steins;gate world-line is chosen and other potentials collapse from that point on in the timestream; so in this now active worldline and Suzuha/the time machine/future okabe disappear when they try traveling into the future of that worldline. What you call Observer isn't anything special, observing is nothing as long as there's no action taken afterward. Hit by a car. You can say that Mayuri's death is an ending of SERN's patience. Which is fine because up until the last step, both our okabe and steins;gate okabe are possible potentials based on observations up to that point. Overwhelmed, Okabe goes back to the lab and rests Mayuri's body on the couch. In this subreddit, you may submit posts about the Science Adventure series. Dogma In Ergosphere (9.2)The episode that truly kicked off the series for many people. Because of these reasons. The world line where they neither converge to alpha or beta and on this side, Mayuri is not dead. Due to Attractor Field convergence, Mayuri is destined to die on August of 2010 in the Alpha Attractor Field. I was talking about the main protagonist beta-born Okabe overwriting the okabe he fools in the steins;gate universe. Mayuri quickly comes up to him and offers him some books she bought about a new mecha show, but Okabe rides it off, saying he is preoccupied with fighting The Organization and has to leave to set up ninjas, asking her to meet him there in a few hours. White or transparent. I will take some more time to process everything you've said and respond in more detail =). This seems to cheer Okabe up, and they talk about getting the whole lab together next time to do a group cosplay. Okabe has the characteristics of a lanky young man, with a square jaw and bony cheeks. Okabe tells her he plans to save Mayuri with the already-erased D-mails without going to another world line, but refuses to say why, only saying there are unforeseen developments. Why do they disappear when d-mails don't? There is a difference between Kurisu's death and Mayuri's death. The existence of the universe is continuous, and Time Travel only makes it loop back to a certain point and rewrite everything that happens after that. Trick the universe is tricking Okabe. 6. I think the reason is that we start the VN and anime at 0.57% something, and this world line SERN influence is strong. They want to make a great story not find out all the possibility of the story. The presence of two Okabes on July 28th, 2010 is a paradox in and of itself, but like you said, Okabe interfering with his own timeline is not permitted. Thus weaker influence. For certain events, this strength is so great that they become fixed points of this field and draw all potentials towards them -- so that no matter which active one is chosen this event takes place. Somewhat subverted in that unless something drastic in time is changed, death will almost certainly occur again. However, I need to ask you one question to clarify, what exactly you're trying to say. That brings us to the last point, and that's the role of consciousness. Also, the reason why they needed to do all of this complicated stuff was to trick the Attractor Field into acting normally after the starting point A (Kurisu's death, Paper Stolen) while those actions deny in reality the access to the point B (WW3 aka time travel discovered). I think your first point is correct, though there is a matter of metaphysics. (Human's behaving is unstable and chaotic, so it's easier to affect it). I don't know whether he went to the future or not, but I think reading steiner activate is not affected the time. This really cleared things up for me. Scienctist's theory is correct until there are better conclusion, explanation or theory to explain the thing. is the daughter of Shouichi Makise, a genius girl who graduated from university at the age of seventeen, and a member of the Brain Science Institute at Viktor Chondria University and the Future Gadget Lab. Now what if trying to explain thing with the knowledge I have as an engineer. For example we have 2 magnet represent alpha and beta attractor field, and we use a needle to represent world line. Now the futures reality depends on what Okabe seems as important to cause his actions. Let me just say, your posts are amazing, Im looking forward to your next one! Now to trick this system that will always consider every information you had to change everything to cause a change. It is an incident after their Christmas party at the lab. Every cause has an effect, no matter how small this effect may be, its measurable and determine what the future will be. Daru then leaves while Mayuri arrives, asking Kurisu to come with her to the convention again. At the same time, Kurisu is asked by Daru to get one of his playboy books in Okabe's belongings, deciding that she will sue later. 3. The time travel stuff is incredibly well thought out and cohesive. More generally, observers can influence the world in different ways than a d-mail as viewed downstream. Kurisu is one of the main characters of Steins;Gate, a major posthumous character in Steins;Gate 0 via Amadeus. This represent the influence of attractor field. She then prepares to leave for the convention, but Okabe stops her and decides to come along. This is pretty much what Kurisu/Suzu are saying in the VN when they claim it's similar to the Copenhagen interpretation, but people still often misinterpret attractor fields as 'fate' which is an over simplification. -Attractor Fields aren't discrete, they bleed into each other a little bit. He is very slim, with thin arms and a lanky body. Just then, a car appears in front of them, and the clocks stop again. Good points about the attractor field topology & them not really being discrete. Why does Mayuri surviving undermine Okabe's existence on the alpha worldline? Because the system cant decide that, it always have to consider every information available. 's 2015 video game of the same name, and is part of the Science Adventure franchise. Decorate your laptops, water bottles, helmets, and cars. He has his short black hair swept back and has brown irises, with a small amount of stubble on his chin and cheeks. Okabe travels back in time with Suzuha to just before Kurisu's death to witness the dawn of the time machine arms race and the spark of World War III. That's what the steins;gate world line is -- the wordline influenced by our potential okabe in precisely the right way that his cross-worldline observations weren't modified UNTIL he was overwritten by our okabe after returning to the Steins;gate world-line from alpha -- at which point they're annihilated and therefore there is still not an observed paradox. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, WHERE ARE THE JAPANESE SHAMAN GIRLS LINTAHLO, where Luka uses the Time Leap Machine to spend Mayuri's last day alive with her and Okabe at ComiMa, Okabe literally wasn't able to move his hand once he stabbed her, so he had no way to save her. Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed my write-ups! The series is a sequel to the 2011 anime series Steins;Gate, and is the final iteration of the Steins;Gate 0 story. Okabe then reveals himself, saying he won't let her out of his sight since she is his hostage. Steins;Gate by ProfessorProf ... That was my calm analysis. He then says that he will tell her eventually what the issue is, and leaves with her to get another Oopa. Then, we arrive at the question. Does it affect peripheral nervous system to change how the person feels himself? Her origin future are still potentials branching from this single point, so it's alright for her to exist. This can be considered to be a demonstration of the influence exerted by the Omega worldline that's seen in Faris' route of the VN. Spontaneous cardiac arrest. The same can be said with beta world line where the world line value increase the influence of WW3 will be stronger as well. Even if they're scientists. As for your hypothetical question, I really don't know but I would hope that the reason it looks like the attractor field is always targeting humans is just that we see the events through a myopic anthropic lens. Subsequently, the mad scientist finds himself faced with a horrific decision: choosing which of his lab members will die! The time machine takes a physical person back in time, and creates a tiny worldline shift which will generally be converged back into the source worldline by the attractor field. Does it affect motor neurons? by oncemoreteez $39 $31 . This conclusion base on what happened in S;G0 Pandora's Box. Hence I'm not that deep with the theory and stuff, but I tend to use object similarity and observation&analysis to explain my reason. Okabe is part of the system and must play to the rules. Okabe then finally tells Kurisu about the D-mail, and after he finishes Mayuri calls him. and Nitroplus.It is the second game in the Science Adventure series, following Chaos;Head.The story follows a group of students as they discover and develop technology that gives them the means to change the past. What is the start of SERN influence. All orders are custom made and most ship worldwide within 24 hours. 3. Steins Gate 0 Anime. How do you think, what is the main tool Universe is using to make events converge? However, undoing the first D-mail would return him to the timeline where Kurisu was found dead. Steins Gate Part 186 Okabe Rintarou Sends The Final D Mail. If you undo the death the system will repair itself, because it would hinder the actions of Okabe. Because thats what essentialy saved Kurisu. She then welcomed Okabe back home, and from then on would spend a couple of hours in near silence with Okabe. But after they confirm that Kurisu is not dead, and they might get a closer inspection they found that. What about Future Okabe and Suzuha? We print the highest quality steins gate merch on the internet ... time-machine, mad-scientist, steins-gate-anime, mayuri-shiina, mikase-kirisu The Time Traveler Hoodie. We can see many theories that some of them even developed by great scientists have been replace with a newer one. The strength of the field at a point is proportional to how far-reaching the causal implications of an event on the time stream would be if observed. So, if time-machine doesn't exist, the world is completely free from any convergence, since there is no reason for these rules. Hence Mayuri's death will be shorten. Hit by a policeman's stray bullet. After Mayuri hangs up, Kurisu tells Okabe to go find her, since moping over herself pisses her off. Steins Gate Necrosis Part 1 The Time Travel Nexus. Surprised, Kurisu realizes that he time leapt again, and asks what happened, arguing that they are a good team. Worldlines aren't really objects, they're more like numbers, tools used to compute how stuff works. I would say if he send something stupid using D-mail. And this rule is attractor fields — universe is shaped in such way, that the world always will build such chain of several highly probable events/convergences (in the past and in the future), like death of Mayuri, what will lead in the end to the creation of the time-machine, no matter what observer is trying to do. Kurisu theorizes that, since negating Rintaro's D-Mail stopping Suzuha delayed the attack, undoing the effects of the other D-Mails could bring them back to a World Line where they have an IBN 5100, allowing them to hack into SERN and delete the records that set them on their trail. To back your point of the importance with Okabe as oberserver: Steins Gate Zero takes a lot of effort to explain the reader the "Frame Problem". Okabe physically travelling into the s;g worldline makes less sense for me. Kurisu mocks this since evil geniuses don't typically accept such things, but this causes Okabe to snap, saying that he's no evil genius and that Hououin Kyoma is a piece of child's play. Remember that at the time they are there, no events have been observed which preclude Suzuha from existing, so she does not vanish, even though her worldline has already been annihilated by the now active steins;gate world-line. As you said, the time travel mechanics is solid. What you've written is similar to what I have in mind. This is an incredible post, as well as the comments. Okabe transports himself back to when Daru is commencing the hacking. A similar yet relatively weak example would be that the Steins;Gate worldline is extremely close to the divergence value of 1% (it's ~1.05%) while the Beta worldlines that appear between Steins;Gate and Steins;Gate Zero all have divergence values of roughly 1.13%. Since I've never play original VN before, so my reason might be lacking somewhat. It's said that Steins;Gate is a world line that lie in between alpha and beta attractor field thus it converge to neither of both. I have one question (I'll ask it here because I've heard it said before but I've never really understood why). All the equipment and theory SERN spied from the experiment in FG lab is enough. Steins;Gate 0 (Japanese: シュタインズ・ゲート ゼロ, Hepburn: Shutainzu Gēto Zero) is an anime television series created by White Fox that continues the story of 5pb. The potentials still exist, but which ones observers can observe is limited by the Attractor field. Instead they lead to the world-line 'diverging' from the point where the changes are made, but then converging back into a single world-line in the future thanks to the influence of the attractor field. I haven't played steins;gate 0 yet, maybe someone else can address this. Paradox Meltdown (因果律のメルト, Ingaritsu no Meruto) is the twenty first episode of the anime adaptation of the visual novel Steins;Gate. He then quickly runs onto the roof, laying flat on his back. The Beta worldline and Steins;gate are identical until the events surrounding the time machine are observed. World-lines exist in a continuous space measured by divergence, and only one world-line is active at a time but that world-line is chosen via the observation of potential events within the that continuous space of potentials, subject to the coherent gravity of the attractor field. However, events that are not critical to that outcome can be influenced by other Attractor Fields. 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